"With JOHN, the apostle"


NOTE: The following Book of Revelation chapter 4, 5 and 6, was translated based on the recording of direct explanation by John, the apostle, to the Community of Charity Services of the Blessed Mother’s recollection at Cilember-Megamendung, on 13 December 2003.


4:1 After this I had a vision of an open door to heaven, and I heard the trumpet like voice that had spoken to me before, saying, "Come up here and I will show you what must happen afterwards."
A door in heaven was opened and the first voice……… do you know whose voice was that? (Audience answered: Jesus) In the beginning, now, and forever is the same. Continue!

4:2 At once I was caught up in spirit. A throne was there in heaven, and on the throne sat
Immediately I was in the Spirit and behold,… who was this? (Audience answered: Jesus), who is Jesus according to you? (Audience answered: God)
Immediately I was possessed by the Spirit, and, behold…, What Spirit possessed me? (Audience answered: Jesus’ Spirit)
His power! His power dominated all my life, so what God’s purpose was that He spoke Himself and explained all what I saw, what I heard. And then a throne was set in heaven, and One was sitting on the throne. Who was He? (audience answered: Jesus God)

4:3 one whose appearance sparkled like jasper and carnelian. Around the throne was a halo as brilliant as an emerald.
This showed His power, His Beauty and His Almighty which were sparkling and full of authority. What I saw then was the description of God. This is my reflection. What I could recall of God that I saw, I put down in writing as my reflection. But I would like to say: this was His very enormous power that could affect each person’s life that opened his heart.

4:4 surrounding the throne I saw twenty-four other thrones on which twenty-four elders sat, dressed in white garments and with gold crowns on their heads
What do you think it was said here? Surrounding the throne I saw twenty-four other thrones on which twenty-four elders sat, dressed in white garments and with gold crowns on their heads. Who do you think they are? (Audience answered: martyrs?)

Let me say this: Those who were well pleased by God, were chosen to be the witness of God’s Truths. They gave their lives on their spiritual journeys to convey God’s wills to humanity. They are those who gave their lives to Him. Who do you think they are? (Audience answered: The Martyrs?) Those sacred ones who were loved by God; at this moment they are with God, praising God in heaven. Please continue!

4:5 From the throne came flashes of lightning, rumblings, and peals of thunder. Seven flaming torches burned in front of the throne, which are the seven spirits of God.
The word seven means the perfectness of God’s works. So, the Almighty God who reigns His Kingdom in heaven and is waiting for human beings to come to Him. It was said that the seven torches were the perfect lights of God. You understand, don’t you? Do you understand it so far? Because number seven means perfectness. The word torches are the burning fire to make the place bright. They are God’s lights that dominated the whole heaven. Continue reading!

4:6 In front of the throne was something that resembled a sea of glass like crystal. In the center and around the throne, there were four living creatures covered with eyes in front and in back.
Come, I always described God in truth. There are plenty of beautiful words for God. Yes, a lot! It is here that we experienced it about ourselves. You have read the Gospel of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and myself, John. We were the witnesses of God and responsible for what we heard and wrote about the salvation coming from God. It is we.

And we would not stop working even though we were in heaven, but we keep on working and are responsible for what we have written. Anyone who believes what we have written, we are with him. You understand what I was saying it was we.

And May I make some corrections? Yes, it was a correction. I could also speak like you. The outcome of the priests’ reflection, and being held firmly by them, is good. But on the other side, they leave out what actually happened, what we experienced and wrote in the Gospel. However, many of their reflections are not appropriate with God’s will in His words.

I started to convey this Truth when I met many people, and I passed God’s words to them, and I had a good memory, not even one word was missing of my memory. That was granted from God to me. Therefore, what God had told me, it became part of my life and also your lives, you who believe what I said.

I have preached directly to men and what I said became the spiritual experiences for the Gospel writers Matthew, Mark, and Luke, to convey these Truths to men at that time as their needs. They watched and they told.

As I started preaching directly, later I wrote them to close and end my life journey. I must write what I had received from God. When it was completed, I went home in peace, without suffering. One of the things given to me so I could write with heart, with peaceful mind, with total surrender to God, so there were no mistakes for what I told, I wrote, what you have faith on now. Do you know what I am saying? Hope you do, please go ahead reading it!

4:7 the first creature resembled a lion, the second was like a calf, the third had a face like that of a human being, and the fourth looked like an eagle in flight.
You know that parts of their names resemble their characters, their works, what they did when each Book was written. That is the description of them; God gave a name to them who wrote prophecy, the Gospel, God’s words you hear at this moment so that you can tell who they are? The first creature was like a lion, who was it? And the second creature was like a calf? You may learn from these creatures, because they must have their special characteristics in their lives. But we were not like those creatures whose names were given to us. We were not! Just take some parts of those creatures; God wanted we had our own characteristics in preaching. The third creature had a face as a man; God also used the picture of a man. And the fourth creature was like a bird? What bird was it? (Audience answered: eagle). Who is the flying eagle? (Audience answered: John). Yes, it is John; even John has a meaning. It is because I was so far away… not flying up high, I was told to go far away, too far from one place to another, just like a bird, no home, no place. I must go here and there, and finally I stayed there until I wrote this prophecy I received from God. Please go on!

4:8 The four living creatures, each of them with six wings, were covered with eyes inside and out. Day and night they do not stop exclaiming:

" Holy, holy, holy
is the Lord God almighty,
who was, and who is, and who is to come."

Good! You know we are not the only ones to work and pray in heaven. Everyone came home to heaven in happiness; they were with us to glorify Him in heaven. And we pray for the world, for men, who believe in god.
It is not that we do not pray for those who do not believe in God, but it is useless since they are so strong with what they believe in the world, as they cannot let go of the world. It is useless for us to pray for them, do you understand? And we pray for those who are lost as God’s children and leave out God, and are sinful. It is our simultaneous duty to pray so God would forgive them, so they would open their hearts and would realize God’s blessing has come, God’s mercy has come in their lives, so they can return wholly to God. That is your assignment in this community to bring back the children of God wholly. Please go on!

4:9 whenever the living creatures give glory and honor and thanks to the one who sits on the throne, who lives forever and ever,

4:10 the twenty-four elders fall down before the one who sits on the throne and worship him, who lives forever and ever. They throw down their crowns before the throne, exclaiming:

4:11 Worthy are you, Lord our God,
to receive glory and honor and power,
for you created all things;
because of your will they came to be and were created."

Yes, Amen, isn’t it? This description is for men. Do not ever men come to God bringing earthly things. Do you know what it is meant? Come to God wholly and leave your things behind! Leave them! Come to God wholly, without ranks, positions, not this, and not that, but as God’s children, come to Him wholly. It would be useless if you bring along everything you own to come to God. God would never listen to those who bring along everything he owns to come to Him. He is useless and stupid as men already saved by God from the world but he is still one with the world and to come to God bringing his world. God does not accept that. Do you understand? Go on read the Book sealed…………the Book sealed and Lamb of God in chapter five.

5:1 I saw a scroll in the right hand of the one who sat on the throne. It had writing on both sides and was sealed with seven seals.
Wait a minute. Once again the word seven means God’s perfectness in this Book. Yes, God’s perfectness is in that Book. What is sealed is everlasting, forever and everlasting. No one can change the seals God had already sealed in this Book. Thus, this Book is The Book of Truth, Book of salvation God promised. Those who believe will be saved. Saved from the world and save for coming home and return to God. This is the Book of Salvation; this is what I want to tell you. Go on!

5:2 Then I saw a mighty angel who proclaimed in a loud voice, "Who is worthy to open the scroll and break its seals?"

5:3 But no one in heaven or on earth or under the earth was able to open the scroll or to examine it.

Who could see Gods’ Almighty wholly, Which is His? One day, it will be stated by God when the world no longer exists. When men are no longer here on earth and the earth does not exist anymore and men already return to the place provided by God: good and not good. They will receive from what they are doing, looking for and worked while they were on earth. The one who could open the Book is God Himself because He is the only One; He will reveal Himself to all of us. That is what it meant. Go on!

5:4 I shed many tears because no one was found worthy to open the scroll or to examine it.

5:5 One of the elders said to me, "Do not weep. The lion of the tribe of Judah, the root of David, has triumphed, enabling him to open the scroll with its seven seals."

I have already explained before, It was God Himself. God Himself, Jesus, God, that is our Father. He will reveal Himself with His Power. He is the One Who could reveal the Truth, the Salvation, all is at His hands. Go on!

5:6 Then I saw standing in the midst of the throne and the four living creatures and the elders, a Lamb that seemed to have been slain. He had seven horns and seven eyes; these are the (seven) spirits of God sent out into the whole world.
Who was that? (Audience answered: Jesus Himself)
He was the One Who came to the world, and would come again to the world and to accomplish all matters on earth.

5:7 He came and received the scroll from the right hand of the one who sat on the throne.

5:8 When he took it, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb. Each of the elders held a harp and gold bowls filled with incense, which are the prayers of the holy ones.

5:9 They sang a new hymn: "Worthy are you to receive the scroll and to break open its seals, for you were slain and with your blood you purchased for God those from every tribe and tongue, people and nation.

5:10 You made them a kingdom and priests for our God, and they will reign on earth.

This is already understood, isn’t it? This is God Himself, Jesus, the Lord; I would like to tell all the priests here. Jesus is God who came already to this world, but His power in heaven is wholly.
For He is God, He could do anything as His plans to save men, His creation on earth. Therefore, it is not wrong to accept Jesus wholly. You have a complete faith in Him. But if you only have faith and you still do anything you like in life, you do not have the faith. Hold Him, for Jesus was given to you, through His name you are strengthened, through His name you receive, through His name you are saved. For His name Jesus is God Himself. This is what I need to tell the priests so that they have no doubts to say Jesus is God. I, John, am the live witness and I am blessed in heaven, a perfectly happy at this moment. How beautiful the heaven is the place where God reigns in His Throne, in His Kingdom. Those who believe will get it. That is the heavenly wealth for you. In order that you could possess it, take good care of it by taking good care of yourself so that the wealth will not be disappear from your live. But if you receive the wealth from the world, you will be ruined together with the world. This is John, the apostle who was saying to you. Go on!

5:11 I looked again and heard the voices of many angels who surrounded the throne and the living creatures and the elders. They were countless in number,

5:12 and they cried out in a loud voice: "Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power and riches, wisdom and strength, honor and glory and blessing."

5:13 Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and in the sea, everything in the universe, cry out: "To the one who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be blessing and honor, glory and might, forever and ever."

We were involved in all matters in heaven. Nowadays God also is involving us in understanding the Truth, about Salvation; God involves us and we are still working and praying for you who are still struggling in the world.

And you also pray for yourselves and also pray for one another so that you are strengthened in your live journey. This is what I can tell you. So far, do you understand? Is it clear? (Audience answered: yes)

Good, if it is clear to you, when it is clear, you can do the best in your lives and you know what to do in your lives to glorify God in your life journey.

Here, the word Lamb of God, God Himself Who taught John. Which John? (Audience answered John, the baptist).
He came first. Actually it was also in God’s plan in God’s work to save men. Thus, John, the baptist made each man strong and broke down each man’s heart to repent and return to God.
The time is near. The word ‘time is near’ at that time meant God would save men, is already amongst you. This is just a phrase: Lamb of God, which means a sweet child. God, is sweet, very sweet, everything is very sweet. Go on.

5:14 The four living creatures answered, "Amen," and the elders fell down and worshiped.

The first six seals opened

6:1 Then I watched while the Lamb broke open the first of the seven seals, and I heard one of the four living creatures cry out in a voice like thunder, "Come forward."

6:2 I looked, and there was a white horse, and its rider had a bow. He was given a crown, and he rode forth victorious to further his victories.

Here, we are invited to come back; everyone is asked to struggle and to compete to do good things with heart, but not with your thoughts and feelings. They could be used to support all your works since you are still live in the world. You must fight to win and defeat the world as the world is filled with evil doings.

When your heart is shut, you enter into the darkness. Darkness belongs to the world; God is light, the world is dark. Whoever shuts his heart; he will be in the darkness and cannot see the Light and Truth. Therefore, you must struggle, to compete, and to defeat the world, and take good care of yourself so you will win. The victory means a lot to you, since the victory in God, you will be joyful in your lives.

Please compete doing good things and serve one another, without using worldly ways: to hurt others, to make men sad, to get a lot of people offended in your works, but compete reaching victory in God to defeat the world.

(Audience: What does white horse mean, apostle?)

Horse also has a meaning; he can run fast and quickly. That is what is meant by the battle for victory; to be fast not slow in the Truth, because white is clean, doing works without expecting rewards. Do you understand? Yes, Amen, when you already understand, do so. Go on!

6:3 When he broke open the second seal, I heard the second living creature cry out, "Come forward."

6:4 Another horse came out, a red one. Its rider was given power to take peace away from the earth, so that people would slaughter one another. And he was given a huge sword.
This is the opposite from the first one.

6:5 When he broke open the third seal, I heard the third living creature cry out, "Come forward." I looked, and there was a black horse, and its rider held a scale in his hand.

6:6 I heard what seemed to be a voice in the midst of the four living creatures. It said, "A ration of wheat costs a day's pay, and three rations of barley cost a day's pay. But do not damage the olive oil or the wine."

This is difficult…, isn’t it? These are the fruits of my reflection, not the reflection of a man that is very easy: you look pretty, or you are ugly, you are tall, or you are short. But here, it is describing God with His perfectness, as I should describe for God. What words should I give to God … for example, there is a group of men fighting, you come to make peace and joy between them, but instead you come to make it worse and no solution to this community journey. When you came, the problem in this group should have been finished. Their faith grew and did not get polluted from misbehaving there, but you added misbehaving attitudes and their faith were destroyed. This was not what God wanted. This is just an example; do you understand it? Is it still not clear? Well, just now what was I going to say? Do not ever add things you do not understand, and make the situation worse, and later it will not have a good solution for the people you visit to solve their problems.

Therefore the little faith they have, you come and destroy it, and nothing is left. They will be even more confused; this is what I meant.

Now you know the key above: “But you hurt no the oil and the wine.” That is what is inside them, their faith, the little mercy and love left, you come, everything is gone, which later, he would not understand anything in his life. It is sinful to do that. Go on!

6:7 When he broke open the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature cry out, "Come forward."

6:8 I looked, and there was a pale green horse. Its rider was named Death, and Hades accompanied him. They were given authority over a quarter of the earth, to kill with sword, famine, and plague, and by means of the beasts of the earth.

6:9 When he broke open the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of those who had been slaughtered because of the witness they bore to the word of God.

6:10 They cried out in a loud voice, "How long will it be, holy and true master, before you sit in judgment and avenge our blood on the inhabitants of the earth?"

6:11 Each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to be patient a little while longer until the number was filled of their fellow servants and brothers who were going to be killed as they had been.

6:12 Then I watched while he broke open the sixth seal, and there was a great earthquake; the sun turned as black as dark sackcloth and the whole moon became like blood.

6:13 The stars in the sky fell to the earth like unripe figs shaken loose from the tree in a strong wind.
6:14 Then the sky was divided like a torn scroll curling up, and every mountain and island was moved from its place.

6:15 The kings of the earth, the nobles, the military officers, the rich, the powerful, and every slave and free person hid themselves in caves and among mountain crags.

6:16 They cried out to the mountains and the rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the face of the one who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb,

6:17 because the great day of their wrath has come and who can withstand it?"

This is your assignment! All of you here, and those of you who have just joined, convey the power of God that would come upon the earth and finish all men’s problems: doing evil things, not believing in God, and misleading men, here God will finish them all. Do you know? This is the description of what will happen that you have already preached & received from Mother Mary through this community.
God’s anger will come down upon the earth; darkness will cover the whole earth as God will finish it. Those who believed will be saved from the anger, but those who did not, and mislead, will vanish in seconds.

In the end, you will understand what God’s will for you to be happy, joyful in Gods’ plan. You will be happy with God for one era. We do not know how long one era is, for that belongs to God, it is His right. The important for you, is that you have already received God’s promise, and God has already fulfilled for you to live happily then.

This is what will happen; finally you have conveyed to others what will happen in the end, i.e. the disaster will come upon the earth soon. And I would like to say this is not the end of the world, as I am not talking about the end of the world, but the purification for men.

If men are not purified, what will this earth become? What will men become? Later, not even one man will be saved, for God is finishing the world and those who live with the world will vanish. Who will be saved? No one!

Therefore, God gets involved at this moment so there will be men saved to praise Him and to continue living which is given from God to men. Do you understand?

Very well if you already understand, but please do not just understand, but please ponder it. Do not be afraid for what you heard, and from what you read the Book of Revelation as what was passed on is not to scare you, but to prepare you to face it! Because God prepares men before He sends down His power, and He always prepares men to enter into His plans.

Take a look at the Old Testament, God always guided men and brought them. Whatever happened, God always prepared men. Moses and Noah; All were prepared.

But those who shut their hearts for the prophecy go ahead! Those who looked for the world; go ahead. God had already fully planned to save all men. But for you who has already heard this, but still no changes, it is a waste thing, what were told this afternoon. You, who listened to this, should work better for God, for your family. Everyone will get blessings for what you do.

(Audience: Apostle, which situation it is meant or in what situation, that tells about a rider named Death, who has the authority to kill a quarter of the people on earth?)

This is only an analogy. Only God’s power could vanish the unbelievers. Later, only a few men left on this earth.

(Audience: Apostle, why was God’s plan divided in many seals? Was it indeed the usual order?)

God’s plan must not take place at one time, because men will not be strong enough; it must be done step by step. In fact, God does it like that. You learned how Moses was brought in since baby, to save Israeli; he was brought in there so God’s plans were fulfilled. If not, it would be impossible.

The ones who like to do things spontaneously are men, and they will vanish easily. Will not they be true? But God does things that way for men to be remembered and accepted in God’s plans. All this is reflected since the Old Testament until now. Even God’s descent was planned before hand. He told Moses,” I Myself will come; will come and meet men and speak Myself to men”. This also happened step by step. Imagine how long was it from Moses time to that when God Himself came? To you, it was long, wasn’t it? That happened in sequence so that the history would be well organized. The unorganized ones are men, not perfect; men’s plans are imperfect, the result of which may not be perfect.

But God’s plans always happen in process. You will not be strong enough when God says, “Be it!” and the earth is destroyed. When will we repent? When will we do good things? It is God who is cruel. Whereas God has prepared men for a long time, and that long men are still stubborn, they still close their hearts.

God has come since thousands of years, and there are still a lot of unsaved people. There are a lot of “old men”, the unbelievers. I am telling you: those who are not baptized in Jesus’ name; they are the “old men”. Do you understand? Those who are baptized in Jesus’ name, in Spirit, in His power, they are the “new men” for their places are in heaven.

Ok? Yes, it should! You will not be strong enough if God says… how is it possible? God is that cruel, yes very cruel, He has plans but we do not have time yet to do anything, while He has descended His power. What sort of god is it? Only Satan does things like this! God always brings men into happiness. Do you understand? That was what you asked. Do you understand? If not, well…?

(One of the audience asked chapter 6:11: Each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to be patient a little while longer until the number was filled of their fellow servants and brothers who were going to be killed as they had been, should be fulfilled.)

I have said it just now; my answer covered your question. It was clear enough, wasn’t it? Did you hear what I explained just now? Everything is prepared! Everything is prepared, nothing comes spontaneously; God does not do things carelessly, for He is the Almighty. The one who does things carelessly is Satan, he acts as if the earth belongs to him; he fools men and makes them fall into sins, but only those who like to be fooled by Satan.

Those who are faithful to God, they will struggle to defeat themselves and watch out at all times wherever they are. Do you think Jesus’ followers will be constantly calm?
No, is not it? Answer! That is wrong. Those who do not know Jesus will say: “Heaven and earth are equally looked for by men”. NO!

“Look for Me in your lives, look for the Kingdom of God, everything else will be added! As you know I am The Almighty!” God said. But the outsiders will say, heaven and earth must be the same. If they die, they will get nothing.
Now you see what is going on all over the world? God already has stated that in the purification, God will show fruits coming from earth and heaven. Now, God has shown them clearly, do you still close your hearts?

6:15 The kings of the earth, the nobles, the military officers, the rich, the powerful, and every slave and free person hid themselves in caves and among mountain crags.
Let me tell you, on that purification day, you have no place to hide. Where are you going to hide?

(Audience answered: ‘Ratu Kenya’ Grotto/at home/ at The Chapel of John, the apostle)
That is enough … just hide in Jesus.
(Audience answered: Amen).

You are safe. You do not need to hide anywhere! God can! Everything is vanished. But you will be saved in Jesus when the day comes. Got it?
(Audience answered: yes!)

A lot…! I interpreted God’s words as well as possible in perfectness. I did not use beautiful words for men. They were only for God. I was fully aware that many people did not understand whatever I conveyed and wrote in the Gospel nor in the Revelation, a lot of people still did not understand. But if they pray to God, He would assist to open their hearts as God always helps any spiritual needs of men.

How far are we at now? As there are limits where I have to stop. What important is the ones who are involved in this community and what are to be told to God’s children. That is all! All the others you will understand yourselves at the right time. It is possible you will never come to it, but you will experience them after the day of purification. We do not know how long an era that God gives to men will take place. That is God’s right.

What I need to tell you is your journey with me in this community; as I was sent from heaven to guide Agnes and you to start God and Mother Mary’s way in this community. Therefore, whoever joins this community, be faithful with your promise and work with that promise. Do not just wait, otherwise you will never understand, and the evils will work in your lives. You always ask when it will be? Tomorrow or the day after? Next month or Next year? Today or that day? Evening or morning? That is all you do, but there are many things you must do to wait for the day God promised. Do you understand? (Audience answered: Yes)
Do not ever count the days. That is not good, for your plans are not God’s. God’s plan is perfect and precise, and He will send down what He promised in His Own time, definitely! That is certain! Don’t just stand there and do nothing. With this promise, you stay off from the reality and hopeless. That is not the way the preaching goes, but you must lift up every man’s spirituality, that you pass on. In order for them also to be happy waiting for the time of the purification to come down upon the earth. Dark completely! But do not you always talk and decide when the day would come. You will be confused then.